A statement supported by the attraction of more than 4,000 jobs and $1.4 B in Cap Ex. But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. Accomplished through strategic, long term planning . So the accuracy of his statement is found wanting and thus calls into question his mention of carpet in the "dining saloon". 40. They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. (This is something I have noticed. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge investigated this account in their book but would have perhaps slowed the rate of sinking. Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. of the surviving crew. 5 on starboard. He holds an undergraduate degree in biomedical engineering with honors from The University of Iowa and completed medical school at The University of . 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. There is not one occasion in which he Two libretti and an oratorio were published as The Love Bomb (2003). It is quite possible that those who "remember" Ballard giving a presentation in which he said he saw evidence it was the Olypmic are actually just remembering the documentary entitled "Titanic - The Shocking Truth" which contained fake imagery falsely purported to be evidence of a switch filmed by Ballard. Claim: When James Cameron sent a robot in to Ismay's room it filmed a veined marble surround on the fireplace that exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. The above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in portholes. 25. It must be pointed out that after the Titanic disaster, Olympic's wheelhouse was changed to a rectangular configuration, one of many improvements made during the 1912/13 refit. (Click image to see the full, enlarged photograph). Paddy said that the guilt of Also, a coal bunker fire was indeed burning on Titanic, although it was put out before the collision and in any case as it is not explosive would not have caused the damage described (more information here). He claimed also that the crew had been ordered to sign the official secrets act. Lack of documentation - there is a noticeable lack of specific documentation or references to prove this claim. This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. They It involves 3 photographs. About 29 results for James Fenton's poetry masterclass. 9. The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. The evidence Gardiner and others use to promote the idea of the Californian being a 'rescue ship' is that firstly, it was owned by J.P. Morgan (a "major figure at White Star"), left London in a hurry (as it could only do 12 knots and had to get there first) and was mysteriously sailing during a coal strike (when coal would have been more expensive) . In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. drive the ship at full speed.. This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. Subtracting the total certified capacity of 2864 by 1047 leaves the Carpathia with "space" for 1817 - certainly not an extra 2200 from Titanic as the claim purports. Harold Sanderson repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic There was nothing particulary newsworthy about her. And when we factor in that the passenger capacity was actually even less (2550, which would mean space for 1503) then we clearly see the claim is not accurate at all. So that makes it 3 vessels in the area. Order. According to Bruce Ismay's testimony before the British Wreck Commission they planned to increase Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the, 49. 3. Claim: Panelling from third class areas of the ship now adorn a private flat in the Wirral. (Click image to enlarge). Please note how it does not match the so-called 'Titanic' image in the 'meme.' Those travelling east bound logically did not depart from England, and so were relatively unaffected by the coal strike. This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. 42. A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. that the damaged Olympic had a broken keel and could not make half speed during the sea trials. Auden, with whom he developed an intermittent friendship and to whose poems his own were later stylistically likened. Above: Titanic, left and Olympic, right. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. and came to the conclusion that while elements of Fenton's background can be validated Certainly not enough to justify eyewitness reports of the quantity of ice on the deck. Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. Without evidential support it is merely another concocted claim. On the wreck, what remains of the base of the wheel house (right) is clearly straight revealing it is indeed the Titanic (right image courtesy of Ghosts of the Abyss -Walt Disney Pictures and Walden Media). Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. It is a measurement of volume or the enclosed internal space of a ship. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. But there is a very simple and logical reason that does not necessitate a conspiracy. Also several other passengers such as Lady Duff Gordon and Edith Rosenbaum reported ice on the deck. old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. Why only them? such as Titanic's A Deck promenade which was enclosed by a steel screen with sliding windows, to provide additional shelter, and the promenades on Titanic's B Deck which were reduced in size, and the space used for additional cabins and public rooms, including two luxury suites with private promenades. In this close up of the post-disaster image of Olympic, even higher than IMMs.". The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned We have been told by the look-out people that there were binoculars on the Olympic? Otherwise there is no other evidence crew were forced to sign any "Official Secrets Act." 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. Did they have some idea that the ship which they were on was not the Titanic, but her damaged sister Olympic? The "Titanic" is a ship that sunk by hitting an iceberg in 1912, that was previously considered unsinkable ("Titanic"). As if somehow to counteract this fact, it has then been alleged that 'Titanic's insurance was increased by J. P. Morgan from $5 million to $12.5 million 5 days before her fateful journey'. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position (Click image to see full photograph). 33. Firstly, it must be considered that these images were first released in 2012 and have been examined in minute detail by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and historians since then, so why has it taken 7 years for this to have been spotted, if it is indeed unusual? To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity by Burgess alone, with no collaboration from other eyewitnesses. It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. Firstly, the coal strike actually finished 9 days earlier on April 6, so normal traffic would have soon resumed. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" Captain Smith posing for one of Southampton's local newspapers shortly before Titanic's sailing day. Olympic survived too long for a badly damaged ship The Blue Vein River is broad and deep. ", Claim: Author of two books exposing the theory, Steve Hall, has actually admitted on camera: "I would have to say the question remains open. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one In fact both Olympic and Titanic were launched with 14 portholes on the port side forecastle on C-Deck and 15 portholes on the starboard side of the same area. Early on, she was broadly running level with Olympics There are two key issues with this story. If a number of people had cancelled because of some sort of fear of a switch or insurance scam going on, it seems very likely that they would have spoken out after the disaster. It is likely connected with the false claim that the name Olympic was allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck -proven to be false in point no.38 here. I do not have enough concrete information to say the ship at the bottom of the Atlantic is the Titanic.". Known for his erudite, politically engaged and technically masterful poems, Fenton's early engagement with Auden left a marked influence on the younger poet's verse. The actual triangular hole in the Olympic is much further aft than the location of the so-called 'patchwork' on the wreck. between eighty and ninety feet.". Ignoring the technical error made in this claim and focusing on the difference in gross tonnage (GT or internal volume) of the two ships, yes there was indeed a difference. Hence post-Titanic-sinking images of Olympic also have this 16 porthole configuration. In 1971 James Fenton, an elderly boatswain serving aboard the Australian cargo ship Kooliga, told colleagues about his experiences aboard the Titanic. If not, it is a moot point. Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' 44. the game. There is no proof that a man named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig" was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists. Now, almost thirty years later, the director has one major regret regarding his depiction of a significant character in the movie. Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above, 31. This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. Titanic split at the same point where the Hawke hit. "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . 8. and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. To be able to go into that room and see that marble fireplace still sitting there The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Firstly, it is true that the Carpathia had a capacity of more than what the Titanic was carrying - the Carpathia was certified for more than 2800. In a similarly themed false claim, it is also stated that "when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in 1935 (arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th 1935 to be stripped and broken down) part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK. Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 Though most of his work was ultimately discarded, Fenton was nonetheless contracted to receive somewhat less than 1 percent of royalties, which, because of the overwhelming international success of the musical, amounted to a substantial sum that made him independently wealthy. The art of not violating the verse. Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. The Hawke impacted the Olympic in the stern area. Of course there is none. She had a total capacity of 47 passengers and 55 crew members. of her 24 double-ended boilers connected up." Passengers said there were promenades instead of cabins, 32. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. Well, let's look at the image with and without the multi-coloured scribbles: Left: the original wreck image scaled up and rotated to match the 'meme'. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. Passengers said there were promenades instead of cabins Importantly, Claim: While the wheelhouse of the Olympic was allegedly constructed in a bow fronted fashion, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship. Well it first must be noted that compared to the Without this, such an allegation can simply be filed under 'hearsay. It has to be admitted that this is plain bizarre and shows at what lengths some will go to try and justify a conspiracy. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. and to be able to compare our video with a period photograph of the time and look at the veining in the marble and realise it is the same thing, it was like a fingerprint. He also confirmed that the ship was doing seventy-five revolutions, not 80 as was possible. If indeed Titanic had been insured at the last minute at "$12.5 million," as is alleged by conspiracy theorists, would this not have raised serious alarm bells in the minds of the insurers at the time, especially if it was part of the public record that the value was "$7.5million"? This should not be surprising as the wheelhouse was built during the fitting out stage and so did not exist during the launch. Their error is simple: actually Titanic would have been the same tonnage as Olympic i.e. Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. 9 and was ordered by 1st Officer Murdoch down to A Deck where he helped with the loading of lifeboat No. But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. "cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets." 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary damage control, especially prior to an official inquiry.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'titanicswitch_com-banner-1','ezslot_2',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-titanicswitch_com-banner-1-0'); Claim: Harold Sanderson, from shipbuilder Harland and Wolff, repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic at the British inquiry. Of course there is no testimony from Ballard himself, or from any of the other expeditions who would clearly have also seen this. Patrick Fenton, who lived in Australia regularly told people that when he had worked as a seaman on the Titanic, he had witnessed an explosion on the ship which had caused it to sink, rather than the collision with the iceberg. In both cases Gardiner made this claim up! In reality, Titanic's starboard B-deck windows were more narrow than the Olympic's as onboard Titanic these areas had been converted into two private verandahs and suites. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. You can also purchase an audio CD of Fenton reading 18 of his best poems (12.99) Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. Plainly put, the addition of 1,000 lbs [sic] to the Titanic still resulted in the Titanic weighing [sic] 46,000, which doesnt make a lot of sense. Additionally, especially as the ship was being labelled "practically unsinkable" how would they explain this 'mysterious' flooding to the inquiries that would no doubt take place afterward? He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. Displacement tonnage is the actual weight of a ship (about 52,000 tons for Titanic). Why would it be there? 23. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. Has Cameron in fact admitted that Titanic is actually Olympic? Two major watertight compartments were flooded, her hull plating was gashed, the starboard propeller shafting damaged. The list is believed to be accurate, but may contain some errors. A post disaster image of Olympic shows the plating joint has disappeared, revealing she is in fact Titanic. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. Hall and Beveridge note in regard to this photograph that although "the overlapped doubler is hidden behind the stowed anchor, As Titanic had a private promenade behind it the fireplace was moved to the "forward" wall this can be also seen on photographs taken by the press on board Titanic on April 10th 1912 a few hours before her departure and also today in the wreck.". James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. The Government man read the crew the Official Secrets This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. Titanic 's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing 2. And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. This particular picture was a fake and I have an email from the producer of the film confirming this. The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. (2012) which exposes the theory as being completely impossible. But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? their attention to it, and they all watched it disappear, but had then at once resumed The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). In 1967 he enrolled at Magdalen College, Oxford, initially intending to study English but later switching to psychology, philosophy, and physiology. In the movie the fireplace was a mixture of the fireplace in B 51 (Cardeza) and C 55 (Straus) and was representing a "new" sitting room B 52 (the complete room became nearly a copy of C 55) which never existed on the original shipFurthermore the fireplaces were in different places. A man in Australia, sent a letter to the Northern Star newspaper on July 31st 1996, which talks about a conversation his son had with Paddy. As it was named the "Olympic Class" it would hence not be unusual to feature the first ship in any advertising. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. The ship had never been at The fact that Titanic left Belfast and then Southampton in something of a hurry, with none of the fanfare of the Olympic, just one day of sea trials, no stop in Liverpool, and no opening to the public in either Belfast or Southampton, should not come as surprise at all. And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? of the surviving crew. For sure bunker "W" was emptied as this is mentioned by survivors. When they were not working, they were in the pub, drinking and talking. This is the wreck montage here: PHOTOGRAPH 2012 RMS TITANIC, INC. What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. In the documentary James Cameron explains: These rooms, they were called the Millionaire's Suites, we went into the one that was reserved for J.P. Morgan. Discoloured plating on Titanic His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). 43. The documentary itself, although spending the first 40 minutes promoting the 'switch' conspiracy, actually ends up concluding in the final five minutes that it did not happen. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. In fact what evidence suggests there could possibly be ice on Titanic's rigging? Claim: J. They would only be interested in shorter crossings. Incidentally, Titanic's name was first filmed in 1987 by IFREMER and Titanic Ventures (later RMS TITANIC INC.) after they cleaned that part of the bow from rust. The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. Difference in tonnage 3. Going aft he passes boat No. Baber compiled a list of Morgan's returns from Europe from 1904 to 1912 and "only twice (1908 and 1910) in those years did he return to New York from Europe before July, and in one of those years (1908) he returned that early only to attend a family wedding, heading back to Europe a few days later and staying there until late August." The warped keel apparently gave the Olympic a permanent a 2 degree list to port and the ship builders stated that it could not be corrected without rebuilding half of the ship. Olympic's name is on the wreck - Coming from Belfast to Southampton. Note that of these 6 vessels, 3 were travelling west and 3 were travelling east. 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